Think Rogers iPhone plans are unfair? Try living in Sweden
While Canadians have been shortchanged with Rogers iPhone plans there are still some people getting an even worse deal, the Swedes.
In Sweden and the Nordic countries TeliaSonera is selling the Apple iPhone 3G and the plans has turned the Swedish Apple community against Apple and Telia.
So for a 16GB iPhone you might end up spending $4 356 over 2 years if you want unlimited data.
Come on Steve do you really think most Swedes, or even most Swedish Apple fans are willing to pay between $2 405 – 4 356 to get a new Apple phone. I could buy two Macbook Air and a cheap SonyEricsson phone instead.
I will stick with my hacked first generation iPhone for now even though I have waited a LONG time for this moment. Thanks for screwing up this moment for us!
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Holy crap :)
That’s almost twice as much as us in the UK! It’s incredible how they expect you to put up with these ridiculous rates.
Hello from Canada… Sorry to hear about this — Apple was supposed to bring the mobile internet experience to the masses but it’s clear they’ve given up on trying to influence the carriers.
FYI, there’s another good op-ed on the subject here:
http://tinyurl.com/5bg5mp
If you think sweden is expensive, try Norway .. You can add 20% on the swedish price ..
It’s the voice plan, not the data plan that makes it expensive. $33 is okay for unlimited data!
wait for switzerland! this will be horrible…
This is the price plan from Norway: https://netcom.no/iphone.html
Its pretty much the same story, without the option for unlimted data, prices are in Norwegian kroner.
1 U.S. dollar = 5.02229901 Norwegian kroner
1 British pound = 10.0034152 Norwegian kroner
1 Swedish krona = 0.846232271 Norwegian kroner
1 Canadian dollar = 4.98887561 Norwegian kroner
This is ridiculous. I think apple should stop tying up its phone with mobile service providers. They should follow the path of nokia and other cell phone makers and allow the customers to buy the phones sepretaley and go for pay as you go schemes.
Well Steve really screwed the Icelanders… we don’t even get the iPhone here in Iceland :(
Huh? IN Canada, there *IS* no unlimited data. So it would cost an infinite amount of money here. Even for 10 GB a months, tens of thousands of dollars. That makes Sweden’s $4,000 for three years unlimited data VERY cheap.
HA! Do you want to have a look at Denmark ?!?!?!?!?!?!!
http://www.telia.dk/iphone/
I am so furious…
Any news on whether this new iPhone can be jailbroken? I know that Apple of course says that it’ll be bricked in the event that you do, but I’m sure there’s a way to get around that. That would probably be the best way to get off of AT&T’s plan, as well as your insane plans.
I bet that there’s an early termination fee, but it’s definitely better than that load of money you guys have to pay. Then again, there are cheaper phones that are better than the iPhone…
as far as I can see, in switzerland there won’t even *be* unlimited data plans.
With the iphone’s terrible habit of sucking as much bandwith as often as possible, this is going to be really disasterous – especially considering the fact that the general population around here as *NO IDEA* what data traffic limitation means and how much data, say, a visit to digg.com means (currently at 300 KB. At ~5 EUR per MB that means that one visit to digg.com currently costs ~EUR 1.6).
*sigh*
Philip
In Denmark we don’t get unlimited data either, and the prices are just stupid. It is really turning people again Telia (at least Danes are smart enough to blame the operator). They also have a business plan. The only difference from the private consumer plan is that businesses are bound for 12 months compared to the 6 months for private consumers… Do they really think they’re going to get many business customers?
Well, if you don’t like the price, don’t buy the product. That’s the only clear signal that you can send them.
Pointless comparaison since you HAVE unlimited for that price….
I was willing to pay 60$ /month for 3 year if it was unlimited data instead of 400mb
The problem isnt’ the price but the data restriction
the point is there is still unlimited data in canada there isnt so in sweden you can never go over, in canada lets say you go over by 500mb or something your montly bill will be more than the total in sweden for the years on the contract.
Hey, no matter what country you live in, if your cell providers are gouging you on iPhone pricing – start a protest group!
We Canadians started a protest group and over the weekend it got picked up by Reuters, CNN blog, dozens of popular blogs, and on many local news sites as well.
We have 16.8k signatures at this point, and 1160 people in the Facebook group. We’re sharing plans from around the world that are better than that of Rogers, the company offering the iPhone, and we’re putting them to shame!
Go on people, don’t whine, start a protest petition and get the media attention on mobile rates. You’ll have the support of many thousands of people around the globe and chances are if you spread the word relentlessly, you can get some great focus on your high iPhone rate plans as well.
Good luck!
yeah… but you’re swedes.
so what the fuck is that got to do with anything Chris??
Hmm. Sweden has about the same population New York City, and a land mass less than that of California! How hard is it to put up a few towers and give people cheap, reliable service? Jeez you can drive across the whole country in a few hours. Why the price gouging?
Makes no sense. The only way to fight these prices, however, – and I mean the only way – is to call a boycott of the service. Petitions are useless as well as letter writing. Hit ‘em in their pocketbook or they won’t listen.
So for $83/mo you get 100 mins and unlimited data (and I assume Call Display is included).
IN canada, for $75 we get 150 mins and 400MB of Data, and there is no option for unlimited. (We have to pay an additional $15 for Caller ID.)
Plus we have to pay a $6.96 “System Access Fee”. Putting us up to $82. So we basically pay the same and get way way less than you (well, 50 extra mins a month….woop-de-dooo.)
I’d say we’re equally screwed. At least you get unlimited data.
Man, I would love to get those prices here in Australia.
here are the data plans for the iPhone with Optus:
Starter Pack: $4.95 – 10MB
Classic Pack: $9.95 – 30MB
Super Pack: $14.95 – 200MB
Excess usage: 50c/MB
OR
Pay-as-You-Go:1.5c/KB capped at $9.90 for up to 5MB after that just 0.3c/KB
So, to download 1GB on the highest plan would cost $414.95, on the lowest plan: $499.95
On the PAYG plan – $2985
http://personal.optus.com.au/web/ocaportal.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=personal_mobile_producttypeMOB_marketSegmentres&productpath=/personal/mobile&FP=/personal/mobile/plansandratesmobile/capplans&site=personal
In Switzerland, Swisscom is doesn’t have an unlimited data plan, for professionals and companies, the maximum included download is 250Mb for the maximum rate. (45 CHF/month aprox 45$/month)…
You can end paying the moon if you decide to browse a little bit.
Telia announced more options for iPhone buyer’s earier today.
http://www.idg.se/polopoly_fs/1.170685!imageManager/999951307.png
I saw that, I think the new options are really nice compared to what they have offered in round one. I’m going to do a short write up about it later tonight.
Hi, I’m from Romania and when I saw this I said to myself wtf …
I just wanted to compare this with something that I can find in my country:
HTC Touch Diamond -> a verry beautifuul phone that have everything an iphone has 359 €
100 minutes => 13 €/month
100 MB => 8 €/month
=> if we calculate this => 863 € => in 2 years
compared to ~1600 that is the cheapest that I se in here.
From my point of view I see only one solution to solve this problem: don’t buy it. It will hurt the and it will hurt them really bad.
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Iphone 2 isn’t yet present in my country(I still have to wait a month or 2) and I was verry enhusiastic about it, but when I see what happents in other countries I think that I will just quit at the ideea to buy one.
The phone isn´t THAT good – this will never last…
I have one from USA that looks good but it brake down my calls all the time :((
Actually, to be fair, Telia’s prices are comparable to AT&T’s prices. I just checked.
Remember that U.S. retail prices do not include taxes and fees.
AT&T
24-month contract required
$69.99/mo: 450 min anytime, 5000 min night/weekend, 0 SMS, unlimited data
($199 + 8.5% California sales tax) + (($69.99/mo * 24) + ~13% service fees & taxes) = $2114 for 24 months
Add 200 SMS at $5/mo + fees & taxes = $2250 for 24 months
Telia
18-month contract required
“iMini”: 100 min anytime, 100 SMS, 100 MB data
1695:- + (299:-/mo * 24) = 8871:- for 24 months –> $1418 for 24 months
Add unlimited data (“Prisavtal Fastpris”) at 199:-/mo = 13647:- for 24 months == $2182 for 24 months
So over 2 years, AT&T charges $2250 and Telia charges $2182 (with less voice).
I’d say that’s comparable.
Plus AT&T doesn’t give you the option NOT to have unlimited data. Since I’m usually around Wi-Fi, my data usage has been less than 100 MB per month, so that makes Telia’s cheapest option even cheaper than AT&T’s.
Hmmm… What to do… Why not buy an iTouch and another normal cellphone?
iPhone is only special because of its touchscreen and fancy looks, but HTC and other manufacturers are entering the field with either similarly good phones, or better, even.
Apple’s products are cool and sleek, yes, and normally they function well, but they are insanely expensive “said the man, writing this on a MacBook Pro…”
But this isn’t about Apple, but the carriers. I blatantly refuse to spoonfeed my carrier with money for a service that I can equally well, or better!, get on my laptop. I always bring it with me, it sports a 15.4″ widescreen (bite me, iPhone!), and as long as there is a LAN available, I won’t have to use insanely expensive services that leaves a foul taste in my mouth.. With a headset, I even have free phoneservice anywhere in the world through one of several programs online! And who wants to watch porn on a measly little shitscreen, when you can get the full cumshot on a glorious 15″ widescreen? Come on..!
Cellphone companies have greedy greedy GREEDY fat little sausagefingers, and I for one will fight their policies everystep of the way. 0,59 NKr (approx USD 40 cents, depending) for a textmessage? One textmessage cost around 0,07 NKr to revieve and send to recipient. Prices are being lowered, but the is still SO much leeway. I’m ranting, now. Sorry..
I’m still fuming about the restrictions in Sweden (and most parts of the world) where we’re locked into a certain service provider for the iPhone. Lets face it, if buy a car how ridiculous would it be to be told that I can only use fuel from a certain service station!! At the end of the day it’s all about greed and it’s not just the service providers.
I refuse to subscribe to this, especially when I can buy pretty much most other mobile phones without a contract – my Nokia N95 for example. In certain countries in Europe and the Mediterranean service providers are BY LAW not permitted to lock users into contracts on handsets. I see a trip abroad this summer just to be able to buy an iPhone from one of these countries… I will certainly not be buying one in Sweden.
PS – seems like we in Sweden are getting some ‘choice’ lovin’ at least:
http://www.macworld.com/article/138948/2009/02/iphone_scandinavia.html?lsrc=rss_news
I’ll wait to see what the service plan is like in comparison between the two, but I’m not holding out much hope of a drop in prices.
Oh man, I love the Sony Ericcson. When I learned they came from Sweden, I was proud.
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